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She may not have done anything, but sheās playing with fire. Drinking to excess and staying the night at a former hookupās house is a bad play.
She's meeting him in a hotel room to hide it from her husband. That's the real story here guys.
I've seen people elope or get married with family in another country still have a bachelor party with friends back home. Even a court marriage one had a bachelor party, not 5 days, but if your friends are coming in from out of town, it makes sense to have a group vacation.
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I need some other opinions on this event that happened with my girlfriend of 3 years the other day, as Iām not really sure how to feel or respond.
Sorry, wall of text to follow.
TL;DR! I surprised my girlfriend by taking her to the spa during a workday (I cleared this with her manager beforehand). What I initially thought was going to be a nice evening together, romantic gesture, and surprise turned into a nightmare. On the way to the spa my girlfriend was very overwhelmed and became upset, but unable to articulate why. We still went to the spa, I thought we had a nice time and the evening was redeemed, but on the drive back it escalated even more.
Overall I just need some other opinions on this, as I feel like I have done something wrong.
STORY:
I [32M] surprised my partner [30F] by taking her to the spa a few days ago. I texted her manager to make sure that the day and time worked for them, and that it would be ok to sneak her away from work and surprise her. The manager said yes, it would be fine. So I thought, great! This sounds like a great way to surprise her, make a romantic gesture (my partner always talks about how I never do anything romantic), and spend a nice evening together at the spa and then eat out for dinner nearby. It was sort of for her birthday which was the week prior, but selfishly I also wanted to go, and we had talked about going a few months prior as a nice thing to do together. She generally likes surprises and random gifts and things that arenāt necessarily for any event – just as a way of me doing acts of service and thoughtful gift giving as thatās my love language.
So I go to pick her up and begin the surprise. OK ā sheās in the middle of a task that requires her attention and presence, no biggie, I thought that might happen since I was stealing her away from work. I leave to do some things nearby, and come back 10-15 minutes later and she is free. Great! She hasnāt had lunch yet, so I tell her to grab her lunch and things and that weāre going. Mind you, this whole time Iām kinda giddy and smiling holding the secret, Iām not projecting an air of annoyance or frustration. Why would I, weāre going to the spa, itās gonna be a great evening!
So she grabs her things, but from the get-go it was clear that she was kinda overwhelmed and didnāt really know what was going on. Reading the situation I didnāt think carrying on the surprise would be beneficial, so as soon as we stepped outside her work I spoiled the surprise and said: āWeāre going to the spa, I asked your manager if it would be ok for you to leave work early, I have everything readyā. She still didnāt really believe it and kept saying āI donāt understand whatās happeningā, confused, but sounding happily confused, and surprised – great. She kept asking what we were doing, not really believing me, so I kept saying: āweāre going to the spa, I cleared it with your managerā. So we get in the car and start driving. I packed her favorite snacks, water, tea, etc, as I thought she might want something to eat before going to the spa for a few hours (and/or, I had a feeling she hadnāt eaten lunch yet, which she confirmed).
I start driving to the spa and she begins crying out of nowhere. This is literally the exact opposite reaction that I had anticipated. I pull over, try to console her, but she keeps crying, I have no idea why, and Iām just at a loss. I feel terrible. I planned this nice afternoon, surprise, etc, and now Iām confronted by a really, really upset girlfriend. I felt terrible, but also a bit angry and annoyed that she wasnāt able to give me any explanation for the way she was feeling, and for 15-20 minutes we sat on the side of the road while she cried. She still wasnāt really able to give much more of an explanation that she was feeling āoverwhelmedā and it didnāt feel ok to leave work. I tried to dig into it a bit more. Did something happen at work? Why was she so overwhelmed? Was something else going on? Did I do something wrong? All for her to say no, and as far as I could tell it was a pretty average day for her. For more context, she has been going through a bit of a rough patch at work, and we've been a little stressed as we need to find new housing, but it's nothing new and all things that we've discussed at length with one another.
I suggested we go back. She made a snarky comment about āthen what, Iād just go back to work?ā. So I read this as her now being a bit combative. I suggested we keep driving the direction of the spa anyways as I can run some errands in the area if we didnāt end up going. I try to joke āhey at least weāll go for a nice driveā. Overall the mood went incredibly cold incredibly quickly and I had no idea why other than she was overwhelmed and surprised – I guess not in a good way. After 15-20 minutes or so of trying to console her I sort of lost my temper. I was angry that I had put a lot of effort and thought into this and it suddenly turned on its head, and sheās unable to tell me why, and I vocalized this to her.
We keep driving in silence – I park and say I need to do these things for 10 minutes, and that I would still like to go to the spa and to let her think about it. The separation is nice, I come back and she seems to have calmed down and wants to go and is excited to go. Great.
So we go to the spa. We both feel kind of shitty and bad with that recent experience looming over us of āwhat just happenedā. Nonetheless I try to clear it out of my mind and enjoy it as much as I can. āItās in the past, she was upset, overwhelmed, having a bad day ā itās ok, weāre here, letās enjoy itā I told myself. I genuinely enjoyed myself in the spa, but there were times my partner was still sobbing a bit and crying, or looking upset. Then at times she looked fine. Overall I felt like the experience was kind of ruined already that I tried not to let this affect me, but it was clear that it was still affecting my girlfriend. I was very much of the mindset of accepting what had happened, acknowledging it, while still trying to enjoy the evening.
We leave the spa ā I think things are better now ā I had a great time and felt relaxed and happy, despite the earlier event. My girlfriend seems like she has come around and also appears to be feeling better. We joke about taking way more free bottles of fancy hand lotion and shampoo than we should have (weāre cheap as hell). We get in the car and drive home, and Iām feeling pretty good ā and I thought my girlfriend was feeling better too, and whatever happened earlier had passed.
A few minutes into driving home my girlfriend drops more bombshells and becomes upset again, saying things like āI can see why objectively that is a really nice thing to do but why today?! Like was there a specific reasonā, again crying and listing reasons for why she was overwhelmed. I understand and empathize with all of her reasons, and support her with all of them, but donāt really see this as being an excuse for not being able to enjoy the experience and ruining the nice evening and surprise that I put a lot of thought and effort into for her. I sense anger towards me. It then grows into more, saying she feels unstable, asking what weāre doing in our relationship. etc. She makes more snarky comments, like āwhat is there even to do there together, it's like we're together but not, itās not really something to do as a coupleā implying that spas are a bad place to go for couples.
I felt at a loss, again, and didnāt know how to respond. Again I went from feeling like we had moved on from whatever happened earlier, enjoyed the spa, and was feeling good about that, to being absolutely crushed emotionally again afterwards by her. I didnāt really know how to respond to any of her comments. We drove home in silence after that, and didnāt speak again the rest of the evening. An inverse shit sandwich, if you will, of a shitty experience on the way to the spa, a good time at the spa (for me), and then shitty experience again after.
So, here we are. Iām still reeling a bit from this event, and donāt really know how to proceed. We haven't really spoken since and kind of tiptoed around one another. I feel like I was trying to be very understanding of her experience of things, but also feel that it was disrespectful of my time, effort, and thoughtfulness. Not once did she apologize to me for her actions or for how she was feeling, and I thought we had moved on from her being upset before going to the spa but it all came crashing down again on the drive home.
Iām trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, asking myself if I did something wrong, if she was upset with me, etc. Because yes, while our relationship is in a bit of a rocky place we still enjoy one another's company, are fine 98% of the time, and acknowledge that we have things to work on. Ok ā I get that it may have been a bad day for her, bad timing, etc, so I do understand and empathize with her reaction and being upset on the drive up
She should let you buy it but that was such a shit thing to say when she was trying to do something nice for you
Was this a bachelorette party or something? If so, I think itās way more understandable.
If it was just some Coyote Ugly ādo some sexual stuff to other people for free drinksā thingā¦ yeah Iād be way more uncomfortable. Itās not so much sucking a random nipple, itās the āso she gets drunk and acts singleā aspect to it all. I feel like itās not necessarily cheating per se, so much as it is someone who just doesnāt have a good sense of what is appropriate, and who very obviously doesnāt have a problem pushing your boundaries (Which is also very not cool).
Itās not, it was a big factor because of the reason behind it. He wanted our 50/50 partnership to also reflect in our name as well.
This is the comment I was looking for. Itās the having a secret with his brother for all these years. I would start to wonder what else is a lie. She could be lying about it being one time or being high at the time, impossible to know.
You cant do anything. This is his problem. He has to deal with this. All you have to do is decide how much you're going to put up with
Oh, no. He's 34 and doesn't use transportation on his own. Remove the emotions and think logically about what you want for yourself.
I stayed with an abusive, manipulative and manipulative partner for 9.5 years when I should have ended it within the first year. Youāre basically the female version of me as I met her when I was 21 also. I now have no self esteem and am having to rebuild my life from pretty much zero. DO NOT BE ME.
Iām glad Iām out of that relationship now but Iād be lying if I said I wasnāt full of regrets for the time I wasted with such an asshole.