Finally someone who truly cares about their partner, their health, and overall wellbeing. Most of the posts are based off “my SO gained xxx lbs of weight, im not attracted to them anymore!”, as if thats all to relationships. I hope your SO gets better, best of luck to both of you
You are not assholes. Your concerns are 100% valid.
I'd go to friend and GF together. Tell him that you consider him a friend, as does everyone else in the group. You'd like to start building a friendship with her too. But that doesn't happen instantly. Trust is earned.
Part of being friends with someone, is discussing personal issues in confidence. That's what friends do- they uphold each others' trust. And that's something this friend group does- you are each others' support system. That only works BECAUSE of that trust- when you all discuss things in private, you know that each member of the group will keep that info in confidence and not go telling their SO's or other friends about every problem. But if GF is reading the messages, that's exactly what happens. It creates the situation where nobody can have any private conversation with the group they trust, without SO (who they only just met and who they do not yet trust) listening in.
You don't mean to tell them how to run their relationship. But he can't expect or demand that you or anyone else instantly trust her with their private problems, or trust him if he's going to tell her everything they say. And if she is reading their private messages, then that's what happens. It doesn't matter if he tells her everything that's said or if she reads them herself, the result is that private conversations cannot happen. You aren't comfortable sharing private things about yourself under those conditions, and neither is anyone else in the group.
So to be clear- the goal is not to freeze him out. The goal is to be able to have a private conversation without GF reading it, especially because (name of other friend with marriage trouble) is not comfortable with someone they barely know reading all the sordid details of their marriage unraveling.
That all said, you respect and sympathize with GF's position. You know it means little coming from you, but (friend) is one of the good ones; you've known him for xx years and he's never cheated on anyone as long as you've known him. But she should sympathize with your position too- if she told (friend) something in confidence, and he told all of us about it, you probably wouldn't be too happy with him. This is no different.
This is actually a really tough one. I would be confused by it, but also completely understand not saying anything as ofc she can hang out with anyone, that’s trust. I think it depends on how much it eats at you. You might be best off mentioning it made you feel a little uncomfortable because of the specifics you outline here, but just do it in a light and humours way. “So, how was your evening and who are these strange men you’ve been hanging out with?..” just gotta wait for more context really.
my best friend says that my wife lost her mind and should stop being so jealous.
If you didn't defend your wife when this was said or even consider cutting ties with this “best friend” then I think you have your answer on who you are choosing and your wife doesn't deserve that.
rejection sucks no matter the why, it's ok to feel bad… it's normal Do not ask questions you don't want the answer to. Take the L and move on to avoid other situations like this. Would it had made you feel better if he said it's because he found you ugly? Probably not. It hurts no matter what so we just got to move one. You feel judged. Ofcourse, because you were judged, and you judged him in kind. Value judgements are just that though, based on personal values. You are not wrong for your view on the matter neither is he. He is perfectly valid for his reasoning, as you are for not thinking it's important. Lastly, and more importantly, why would you want to be with someone who doesn't like you? Whatever his reasoning, whether you think they are valid or not, this isn't something you can fix or worry about. Find someone who likes all of you, past and present. You both deserve to be with people who share similar perspectives and who value each other entirely. I think you deserve that and so does he, this means moving on, wishing him the best, and focusing on yourself.
I have told him he has either imposter syndrome, bipolar or something. He describes his brain as “fucked up thoughts all the time and he doesn’t care what happens to him”. Dw I don’t be touching him until he gets a check and I am very diligent when I visit my doctor.
Why is he picking this stupid fight? Why does it matter?
You probably looked like what he says from the outside, but didn't realize it and weren't doing it deliberately. The end.
It's not because you're “disconnected from reality”. It's because people have different perspectives of the same experience. What a colossally dumb hill to die on.
I don't like the way he talked to you during this. Disagreements happen. They don't justify open contempt towards a partner.
How long have yall been together?
And to never talk to him again, and made sure to send me a text telling me to not talk to him.
He's lucky that you actually probably are as nice as it sounds in this story.
I would've been tempted to call his bluff and reply with “okay, I've contacted a divorce attorney and I'll send you the papers”.
I'm not in a position to leave right now, unfortunately… I'd really prefer to figure out a constructive way to talk to him about all of this in a manner that he will understand and not feel attacked or anything, if that makes sense
Finally someone who truly cares about their partner, their health, and overall wellbeing. Most of the posts are based off “my SO gained xxx lbs of weight, im not attracted to them anymore!”, as if thats all to relationships. I hope your SO gets better, best of luck to both of you
You are not assholes. Your concerns are 100% valid.
I'd go to friend and GF together. Tell him that you consider him a friend, as does everyone else in the group. You'd like to start building a friendship with her too. But that doesn't happen instantly. Trust is earned.
Part of being friends with someone, is discussing personal issues in confidence. That's what friends do- they uphold each others' trust. And that's something this friend group does- you are each others' support system. That only works BECAUSE of that trust- when you all discuss things in private, you know that each member of the group will keep that info in confidence and not go telling their SO's or other friends about every problem. But if GF is reading the messages, that's exactly what happens. It creates the situation where nobody can have any private conversation with the group they trust, without SO (who they only just met and who they do not yet trust) listening in.
You don't mean to tell them how to run their relationship. But he can't expect or demand that you or anyone else instantly trust her with their private problems, or trust him if he's going to tell her everything they say. And if she is reading their private messages, then that's what happens. It doesn't matter if he tells her everything that's said or if she reads them herself, the result is that private conversations cannot happen. You aren't comfortable sharing private things about yourself under those conditions, and neither is anyone else in the group.
So to be clear- the goal is not to freeze him out. The goal is to be able to have a private conversation without GF reading it, especially because (name of other friend with marriage trouble) is not comfortable with someone they barely know reading all the sordid details of their marriage unraveling.
That all said, you respect and sympathize with GF's position. You know it means little coming from you, but (friend) is one of the good ones; you've known him for xx years and he's never cheated on anyone as long as you've known him. But she should sympathize with your position too- if she told (friend) something in confidence, and he told all of us about it, you probably wouldn't be too happy with him. This is no different.
This is actually a really tough one. I would be confused by it, but also completely understand not saying anything as ofc she can hang out with anyone, that’s trust. I think it depends on how much it eats at you. You might be best off mentioning it made you feel a little uncomfortable because of the specifics you outline here, but just do it in a light and humours way. “So, how was your evening and who are these strange men you’ve been hanging out with?..” just gotta wait for more context really.
my best friend says that my wife lost her mind and should stop being so jealous.
If you didn't defend your wife when this was said or even consider cutting ties with this “best friend” then I think you have your answer on who you are choosing and your wife doesn't deserve that.
Having your own self confidence is a 10/10. You don't need anyone to compliment or rate you if you know you look good.
A few things:
rejection sucks no matter the why, it's ok to feel bad… it's normal Do not ask questions you don't want the answer to. Take the L and move on to avoid other situations like this. Would it had made you feel better if he said it's because he found you ugly? Probably not. It hurts no matter what so we just got to move one. You feel judged. Ofcourse, because you were judged, and you judged him in kind. Value judgements are just that though, based on personal values. You are not wrong for your view on the matter neither is he. He is perfectly valid for his reasoning, as you are for not thinking it's important. Lastly, and more importantly, why would you want to be with someone who doesn't like you? Whatever his reasoning, whether you think they are valid or not, this isn't something you can fix or worry about. Find someone who likes all of you, past and present. You both deserve to be with people who share similar perspectives and who value each other entirely. I think you deserve that and so does he, this means moving on, wishing him the best, and focusing on yourself.
Sometimes you learn what not to do. That's as valuable as a win sometimes.
I have told him he has either imposter syndrome, bipolar or something. He describes his brain as “fucked up thoughts all the time and he doesn’t care what happens to him”. Dw I don’t be touching him until he gets a check and I am very diligent when I visit my doctor.
Yeah I get it but is there anything I can that can get her to at least reply to me? I don’t want to double text her
Why is he picking this stupid fight? Why does it matter?
You probably looked like what he says from the outside, but didn't realize it and weren't doing it deliberately. The end.
It's not because you're “disconnected from reality”. It's because people have different perspectives of the same experience. What a colossally dumb hill to die on.
I don't like the way he talked to you during this. Disagreements happen. They don't justify open contempt towards a partner.
How long have yall been together?
And to never talk to him again, and made sure to send me a text telling me to not talk to him.
He's lucky that you actually probably are as nice as it sounds in this story.
I would've been tempted to call his bluff and reply with “okay, I've contacted a divorce attorney and I'll send you the papers”.
I'm not in a position to leave right now, unfortunately… I'd really prefer to figure out a constructive way to talk to him about all of this in a manner that he will understand and not feel attacked or anything, if that makes sense